{"id":17698,"date":"2014-08-25T09:35:49","date_gmt":"2014-08-25T13:35:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/?p=17698"},"modified":"2022-12-12T17:11:14","modified_gmt":"2022-12-12T22:11:14","slug":"pastors-and-their-boards-how-to-connect","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/john\/2014\/08\/25\/pastors-and-their-boards-how-to-connect\/","title":{"rendered":"Pastors and Their Boards: How to Connect"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"Body\">People who are called to ministry often have personality traits that are different from those who are called to work in the for profit sector. In addition, their training is different and so are their work worlds. Yet their two worlds intersect when <strong>pastors<\/strong> meet with their <strong>boards<\/strong>. With such very different backgrounds, how can they <strong>connect<\/strong> well?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Pastors and their boards   How to connect\" width=\"625\" height=\"352\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/O282Yx0E_zc?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"Body wp-block-heading\" id=\"the-pastor-s-world\">The Pastor&#8217;s World<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"Body\">A&nbsp;regional director for a denomination (who prefers to remain anonymous)&nbsp;recently gave me&nbsp;some great&nbsp;insights into pastors as organizational leaders. He says they must, and can, become good managers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Ministers<span lang=\"EN-US\"> are <\/span>primarily spiritual <span lang=\"DA\">care-givers<\/span> who work in a culture requiring of managers understanding and skill in four areas; the mind (non-clinical), communication, expediting, and administration. This requires them to often function outside their preferred trait. The challenge is to&nbsp;balance the care-giver orientation toward people with the task demands of managing the ministry.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span lang=\"EN-US\">Characteristically, <\/span>most ministers <span lang=\"EN-US\">are outgoing and gregarious, have high social service interest in directly helping people, strong persuasive tendencies and low or moderate interest in clerical or office work. They are happiest with artist<\/span>ic <span lang=\"EN-US\">rather than managerial responsibilities<\/span>. They generally have a people orientation and primarily prefer a <span lang=\"EN-US\">communications-based culture designed to influence others<\/span>, an intangible <span lang=\"EN-US\">work environment that emphasizes<\/span> collaboration<span lang=\"EN-US\">, promoting, directing, and motivating others<\/span>. They enjoy a <span lang=\"EN-US\">culture of ideas, usually with a strong strategic focus<\/span>, and a<span lang=\"EN-US\"> work environment that emphasizes planning, innovating, <\/span>and <span lang=\"EN-US\">creating<\/span>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To successfully lead in a multi-dimensional environment, pastors must be intentional with understanding the language, expectations and how individuals assess success in each of the four areas referred to earlier.&nbsp;<span lang=\"EN-US\">Pastors and boards must <\/span>be on the same page with<span lang=\"EN-US\"> not only what and how the church functions but why it exists and evaluate progress accordingly<\/span>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;<span lang=\"EN-US\">As servants of the people, most <\/span>pastors <span lang=\"EN-US\">develop good <strong>management skills<\/strong>. Failure to address management issues eventually shows up as <\/span>dis<span lang=\"EN-US\">trust at the board table. Leading well in today&#8217;s church environment requires <\/span>pastors <span lang=\"EN-US\">to have a knowledge of and progressive ability to manage the work of the ministry. You cannot separate ministry and management from a position of healthy influence and control<\/span>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>This regional director gave me a much more nuanced understanding of the <strong>board-pastor relationship<\/strong> than I had before.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Church boards are made up of church members, and since only 12% of Canadians work in the nonprofit sector,&nbsp;chances are that most employed church members are used to the more task-oriented ways of business. This means that when they get together with a&nbsp;pastor who is most comfortable operating in the people-oriented realm, and discuss results and staff reports, they are likely to think the pastor is &#8220;shooting wide of the mark&#8221; when giving&nbsp;reports.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/Missed-target-Freeimages.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"231\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/Missed-target-Freeimages.jpg?resize=300%2C231&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Target with bullet holes all over the place\" class=\"wp-image-17764\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/Missed-target-Freeimages.jpg?resize=300%2C231&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/Missed-target-Freeimages.jpg?w=792&amp;ssl=1 792w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Used with permission<\/em>.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>What to do? As the regional director suggested, pastors must learn to work outside of their natural comfort zones and learn about administration and so forth. But could the board also show some flexibility and move towards the people-oriented side and meet in the middle somewhere? I think they can. Here&#8217;s how both pastors and directors can move towards a common understanding.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"board-pastor-development\">Board &amp; Pastor Development<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>An&nbsp;easy thing is for:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Board members to learn about the differences between the charitable and for profit sectors, and<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Pastors to learn about the organizational responsibilities entailed with having charitable status.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>There are two <em>free<\/em> resources which&nbsp;should help accomplish both goals:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>A 30 minute webcast on the CCCC website called <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cccc.org\/cart\/view_item\/webcast\/37\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">\u201cWelcome to Charity Leadership.\u201d<\/a>\u00a0This is a quick, high level overview of things that are\u00a0unique about charities that directors and pastors must know.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>My post called <a title=\"Business people as charity directors\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/john\/2012\/07\/11\/business-people-as-charity-directors-what-they-should-leave-behind\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Business people as charity directors<\/a>&nbsp;discusses&nbsp;how directors from the for profit sector need to adjust their thinking and terminology when they sit on a charity board.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"check-the-governance-model\">Check&nbsp;the Governance Model<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Many church boards have adopted a policy governance model, which is the most liberating model for the staff. It works quite well when properly implemented, but only if the church has a fully functioning management team. Policy governance demands from staff expertise and a way of thinking that pastors may find difficult&nbsp;to provide without strong administrative staff support.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So in a church with no management staff, a management board (also known as a traditional board) may be more appropriate because it draws on the expertise of church members who have the requisite skills for the administrative work, and leaves the pastoral work to staff. My caution is that a management board requires directors to set aside personal preferences, and in a church setting where board members are also beneficiaries and donors, setting personal preferences aside can be difficult. I have a post about <a title=\"The unique challenges of church boards\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/john\/2010\/03\/18\/the-unique-challenges-of-church-boards\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the unique challenges of&nbsp;church boards<\/a> that provides more information on this topic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If the board is committed to a policy governance model, and if there is an administrative staff, one&nbsp;solution would be to have the church administrator report to the board as well as the pastor. Policy governance allows for this. The problem, though, with having two staff reporting to the board is that the board must now resolve differences between its two reports. With a single report, such differences get worked out by&nbsp;the staff.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Another solution, perhaps the best one, would be to have the administrator prepare&nbsp;the pastor&#8217;s board reports (in which case the pastor is still accountable for everything the administrator puts in the report).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"ensure-the-pastor-sees-the-value-of-administration\">Ensure the Pastor Sees the Value of Administration<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Anyone who feels a strong sense of God&#8217;s call will be absorbed by that call. A question that is always on their&nbsp;mind is, &#8220;What relevance does this or that have with my call?&#8221; Why should pastors care about board reports when they are driven by&nbsp;mission?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Well, there are two key reasons why a pastor should care about having a good reporting structure in place:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Both the board and the pastor want the church&#8217;s mission accomplished, and board&nbsp;reports are a way that they can know that real results are being achieved and that the church&#8217;s programs are effective. Both parties should want to know the truth so they can make corrections. Who wants to arrive in heaven some day and discover the fruit from a lifetime of ministry wasn&#8217;t nearly what it could have been? Better to know now, when you can do something about it.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Both the board and pastor should also be vitally interested in the church&#8217;s organizational health. Is the local church sustainable? What might it look like in 5 or 10 years if current trends continue? Pastors should be interested in knowing how secure their ability to live out their call is. &nbsp;When pastors know that the church is meeting its civil responsibilities (eg., government filings, compliance with regulations), has a viable cashflow, is able to attract good staff, and has a growing membership, they can be assured that they will be able to continue working on their call in that local church if they continue to grow professionally themselves.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"a-common-language-for-board-and-pastor\">A Common Language for Board and Pastor<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>When boards design the reports it wants and requires the pastor to complete them, they are asking pastors to do something they probably would rather not give a lot of time to, while at the same time imposing a reporting structure on the pastor. I&#8217;m told that pastors are not against structure <em>per se<\/em>, but they don&#8217;t like imposed structure; they&#8217;d rather design it themselves. So designing the reporting requirements should involve both the board and the pastor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Are the people-oriented pastors up for this? Yes!&nbsp;Pastors may not naturally be comfortable with the corporate-style language often used by board members, but that doesn&#8217;t mean they don&#8217;t have a good handle on the church&#8217;s affairs. They just have another way of thinking about it and a different vocabulary to describe it. If the board and pastor can come to a common language for reporting that the pastor naturally relates to, they will both feel better about the reporting structure.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Christian agencies have long been using a&nbsp;<a title=\"Program Evaluation 2 \u2013 Program rationale\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/john\/2011\/10\/19\/program-evaluation-2-the-logic-model\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">theory of change<\/a>&nbsp;as part of their strategic planning. This theory is a model that appeals to the logical and factual way directors often think. Pastors, however, are usually well-trained to think in terms of a <a title=\"How to develop a ministry philosophy\" href=\"http:\/\/www.sharefaith.com\/blog\/2011\/09\/stop-think-develop-philosophy-ministry\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">ministry philosophy<\/a>, which fortunately functions in a way that is very similar to a theory of change. If your pastor doesn&#8217;t have a ministry philosophy, there are some <a title=\"Why you need a ministry philosophy\" href=\"http:\/\/www.jeffrandleman.com\/why-you-need-to-develop-a-philosophy-of-ministry\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">excellent reasons<\/a> why they should make the effort to write one for the church. (The one they have may relate only to their own ministry portfolio.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A ministry philosophy gives you:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>a definition of mission<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>a way to link activities to mission and an opportunity to look for untested assumptions<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>a definition of success, and the basis for figuring out how to measure it<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>The questions the board should then ask the pastor are:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>How do you know how well you are doing in fulfilling your call to ministry?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>How do you know how well the church as a whole is fulfilling God&#8217;s purpose for it?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Some of the pastor&#8217;s answers may be tangible and measurable, but others may be anecdotal. That&#8217;s okay. Both <a href=\"https:\/\/www.fullstory.com\/blog\/qualitative-vs-quantitative-data\/#:~:text=Quantitative%20data%20is%20numbers%2Dbased,what%20happened%20behind%20certain%20behaviors.\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">quantitative and qualitative<\/a> information is helpful. If it is difficult to define or obtain&nbsp;tangible measurements, you can fall back to other indicators of success.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>How do you measure what is going on in the heart of a church member? Are they closer to Christ than a year ago? How do you measure that? You could consider other indicators of Christian growth. One might be engagement with the local church in terms of attendance, volunteering, and giving. Another might be the freshness of their testimonies of God&#8217;s work in their lives. Or you could ask people to share stories about how they live out their faith in the broader community, perhaps through volunteering or even informal, personal activities. The danger here is that you could become legalistic and start thinking of what people <em>should<\/em> be doing. The important thing is that people find their own ways to live and grow in their faith.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>You can also take your board policies (&#8220;executive limitations&#8221; in policy governance parlance) and ask questions that get at those policies in terms the pastor thinks about. For example, if you have a policy about treatment of staff, you could ask:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Has each staff member had a formal performance review within the last year?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Do you have a professional development plan for each staff member?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>What is the atmosphere in the office like? How would you describe the environment?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Is anything about staff troubling you?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"mutual-support\">Mutual&nbsp;Support<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>My prayer is that this post will help pastors and boards find a way to work together that works well for everyone. God bless!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/Pastors-and-their-boards.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pastors have traits and training that is often quite different from those in secular work. 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