{"id":25586,"date":"2017-11-20T09:38:37","date_gmt":"2017-11-20T14:38:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/?p=25586"},"modified":"2022-08-12T16:22:54","modified_gmt":"2022-08-12T20:22:54","slug":"the-value-of-communal-discernment","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/john\/2017\/11\/20\/the-value-of-communal-discernment\/","title":{"rendered":"The Value of Communal Discernment"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"The Value of Communal Discernment\" width=\"625\" height=\"352\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/gH0UgcCQtyM?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Authors as Artists<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>I was introduced to <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.cslewis.com\/us\/about-cs-lewis\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">C.S. Lewis<\/a><\/strong>&nbsp;and his wonderfully captivating world of Narnia in third grade, when my teacher brought a radio to class so that we could listen to a reading of&nbsp;<em>The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Later, at university, I was introduced to another wonderful world &#8211; Middle Earth &#8211; first through <em>The Hobbit,&nbsp;<\/em>and then through the majestic sweeping saga of <em>The Lord of the Rings, <\/em>both<em>&nbsp;<\/em>by&nbsp;<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.tolkiensociety.org\/author\/biography\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">J.R.R. Tolkien<\/a><\/strong>,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>People tend to assume that great authors such as Lewis and Tolkien are incredibly gifted individuals who, working all on their own with innate gifts of imagination and composition, single-handedly develop their plots and characters to tell a compelling story.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But that wouldn&#8217;t be true.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Both Lewis and Tolkien worked in community to develop their stories.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>They were part of a group closely associated with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.magd.ox.ac.uk\/discover-magdalen\/visiting-magdalen\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Magdalen College<\/a> at Oxford University,<sup class='footnote'><a href='#fn-25586-1' id='fnref-25586-1' onclick='return fdfootnote_show(25586)'>1<\/a><\/sup> the <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Inklings\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Inklings<\/a><\/strong>. This group met in Lewis&#8217;s rooms at the college from 1933-1949 to read their developing stories to each other for critique and suggestions. The picture below shows where C.S. Lewis lived at the time &#8211; on the middle floor just to the right of the centre section, where the two white blinds are seen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignnone wp-image-25676 size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"625\" height=\"469\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/Magdalene-College-Lewiss-Rooms.jpg?resize=625%2C469&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"photo of Magdalene College\" class=\"wp-image-25676\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/Magdalene-College-Lewiss-Rooms.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/Magdalene-College-Lewiss-Rooms.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/Magdalene-College-Lewiss-Rooms.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/Magdalene-College-Lewiss-Rooms.jpg?w=1250&amp;ssl=1 1250w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/Magdalene-College-Lewiss-Rooms.jpg?w=1875&amp;ssl=1 1875w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 625px) 100vw, 625px\" \/><figcaption><em>C.S. Lewis&#8217;s rooms are on the 2nd floor with the two white window shades drawn.\u00a0Personal photo.<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The best known place where the Inklings met weekly for friendship and lunch, as opposed to readings, was at a pub called <em>The Eagle and Child<\/em>.<em>&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignnone wp-image-14959 size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"625\" height=\"469\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/P1080214.jpg?resize=625%2C469&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Exterior of The Eagle &amp; Child pub\" class=\"wp-image-14959\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/P1080214.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/P1080214.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/P1080214.jpg?resize=624%2C468&amp;ssl=1 624w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/P1080214.jpg?w=1250&amp;ssl=1 1250w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/P1080214.jpg?w=1875&amp;ssl=1 1875w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 625px) 100vw, 625px\" \/><figcaption><em>The pub where the Inklings met. Personal photo.<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>They sat at the table shown on the left in the picture &nbsp;below.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignnone wp-image-14960 size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"625\" height=\"469\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/P1080217.jpg?resize=625%2C469&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Interior of The Eagle and Child pub\" class=\"wp-image-14960\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/P1080217.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/P1080217.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/P1080217.jpg?resize=624%2C468&amp;ssl=1 624w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/P1080217.jpg?w=1250&amp;ssl=1 1250w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/P1080217.jpg?w=1875&amp;ssl=1 1875w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 625px) 100vw, 625px\" \/><figcaption><em>The table where JRR Tolkien and CS Lewis sat with the rest of the Inklings.\u00a0Personal photo.<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Leaders as Artists<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Leaders<\/strong>, like authors, are often thought to work alone, but instead of crafting stories, they craft strategy and solve organizational issues. This leadership model, developed in the early 1800s, is called the &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Great_Man_theory\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>Great Man Theory<\/strong>,<\/a>&#8221; and it certainly can appeal to a leader&#8217;s ego! After all, who doesn&#8217;t want to be great? The theory is that an organization&#8217;s or a nation&#8217;s success can be attributed to a single heroic person, who in olden days was always a man. This theory has since been discredited, but it still lingers on, particularly in the world of organizational leadership where successful leaders are lionized as individual heroes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Now, there certainly are great leaders, but if they believe that they represent the <em>Great Man Theory<\/em> in action and that the organization&#8217;s success is truly all bound up in them, then they are ripe for a brutal reality check. The truth is, great leaders work with teams. They are not infallible nor are they omniscient. Some leaders are far more creative than others, but they don&#8217;t have to be. A leader is simply a person who recognizes opportunity, no matter which person is creative enough to spot it, and knows how to bring a group together to make something of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>For an example of what could go wrong with leaders who believe otherwise, just read <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/john\/2010\/04\/19\/the-danger-of-good-intentions-2\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">my post<\/a> on the leadership failure that sent a short-term mission team to jail. In this case, the leaders thought they knew everything they needed to know, but it turned out there were a lot of crucial things they knew nothing about.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignnone size-thumbnail\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/The-Value-of-Communal-Discernment.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/The-Value-of-Communal-Discernment.jpg?resize=150%2C150&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-34954\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/The-Value-of-Communal-Discernment.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/The-Value-of-Communal-Discernment.jpg?zoom=2&amp;resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/The-Value-of-Communal-Discernment.jpg?zoom=3&amp;resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 450w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a><figcaption><em>Download personal reflection guide<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Drawing on the Community<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Here are some tips to help you <strong>discern<\/strong> your plans in <strong>community<\/strong> rather than alone on your own:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Every leader needs to be receptive to influence and critique from outside their sphere of influence.<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/share?url=https:\/\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/john\/2017\/11\/20\/the-value-of-communal-discernment\/&text=Every+leader+needs+to+be+receptive+to+influence+and+critique+from+outside+their+sphere+of+influence.&via=JohnCPellowe&related=JohnCPellowe\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"Click here to tweet this.\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"TweetSelection\"  ><\/a> Pick people who you know&nbsp;have alternative perspectives to your own to consult with. This way, you will generate a much more robust and informed understanding of the topic at hand.<\/li><li>The stronger your personality and sense of inerrant judgment, the stronger and more forthright your outside influence needs to be.<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/share?url=https:\/\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/john\/2017\/11\/20\/the-value-of-communal-discernment\/&text=The+stronger+your+personality+and+sense+of+inerrant+judgment%2C+the+stronger+and+more+forthright+your+outside+influence+needs+to+be.&via=JohnCPellowe&related=JohnCPellowe\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"Click here to tweet this.\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"TweetSelection\"  ><\/a>&nbsp;<span style=\"font-size: 1rem;\">You need to have people who will challenge you and push back on your ideas when they can think of something they believe is better.<\/span><\/li><li><span style=\"font-size: 1rem;\">Look for confirming <em>and<\/em> disconfirming feedback. If you have a genuinely good idea, you will find confirmation in consulting with others. If your idea has flaws or isn&#8217;t the best, you will get disconfirmation. Be sure to pay attention to disconfirming information. In a country like Canada where we generally try to be so polite to one another, it&#8217;s a gift when someone is willing to say anything knowing that it is a challenge to the way you see things.<\/span><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>If you&#8217;re not sure who you should consult with, read the section &#8220;Ministry Peers&#8221; in my post&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cccc.org\/news_blogs\/john\/2011\/11\/08\/its-not-lonely-at-the-top\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">It&#8217;s not lonely at the top!<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Key Thought: Communal discernment means better ideas!&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n<div class='footnotes' id='footnotes-25586'><div class='footnotedivider'><\/div><ol><li id='fn-25586-1'> The college&#8217;s name is pronounced &#8220;Maudlin.&#8221; Here&#8217;s the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MagdalenCollegeOxford\/posts\/do-you-know-the-reason-why-magdalen-college-is-pronounced-maudlinour-founder-wil\/1364483776913170\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">official story<\/a> why it is pronounced that way. <span class='footnotereverse'><a href='#fnref-25586-1'>&#8617;<\/a><\/span><\/li><\/ol><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Great leaders are not infallible or omniscient. 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